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My Favorite Wine

Tue Nov 1, 2011 9:45 PM EDT
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By Enoch-2699399
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My favorite wine is Marechal Foch. It is named after Field Marshal Ferdinand Foch. It was developed in Alsace, France by Eugene Kuhlmann. It started as a cross breed of Gold Riesling and Courtiller Musque grapes. It may also contain Oberlin 595.    

This is one of the first grapes to ripen in the spring time. This red wine can be bone dry to semi-dry on the residual sugar scale (R.S. Factor). It depends on the age of the Vine, and the hybrid grape the Vine yields. I like it produced in French, American or Hungarian Oak barrels. That adds a smooth, mellow buttery finish to it.

Marechal Foch pairs well with salmon, tuna, Whole grain red sauce pasta, lighter meats such as duck, turkey, and veal.

Foch is also known as Leon Millot, Kuhlmann, and Oberlin.            

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Enoch-2699399

If you have ideas on other food pairings, please feel free to post. Thanks. Enoch.

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 9:49 PM EDT
rochart

I'm thinking that they don't serve the wine that you described at Jay's Diner.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:19 PM EDT
Enoch-2699399

Absolutely correct, dear friend Rochart. The closest they come is a vinegar they describe as "Rare Aged Wine".

  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:29 PM EDT
Shelby Davenport

Ahhh, but it is good for marinating!

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:06 PM EDT
Enoch-2699399

Good for marinating foods, not diners. LOL. Thanks for bringing a big smile to me this evening.

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:18 PM EDT
Vlad's dog

Isn't that the type of wine that goes good with salad Enoch?

    #1.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:47 AM EDT
    Enoch-2699399

    Dear Friend Vlad's Dog: It can. It is very versatile. I use it for and served with Vegan dishes all the time.

    • 1 vote
    #1.6 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:30 AM EDT
    Al-316

    I must confess that Jay's got me hooked many years on their Apple Cider Vinegar. I goes well with Dungeness crab legs. Instead of using butter, simply dip the crab meat into the vinegar. It has a wonderful bouquet, is less filling and is low in calories.

    Jay's is having a special all you can drink White Vinegar blow out next Friday afternoon for all those interested in truly fine dining and rare vintage vinegar.

    • 2 votes
    #1.7 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 2:07 PM EDT
    Enoch-2699399

    Blow out would be the correct term after quaffing down apple cider vinegar.

    Dungeness Crab gave up its legs for dinner? How does it walk?

    • 3 votes
    #1.8 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 6:26 PM EDT
    CL1

    Interesting hybrid, Enoch. I see that it is also grown in both the far western US and Canada, as well as in the east.

    • 2 votes
    #1.9 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:36 PM EDT
    Enoch-2699399

    Dear Friend CL1: Great thing about grapes. They cannot read maps.

    • 2 votes
    #1.10 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:54 PM EDT
    CL1

    ..And how lucky we are with that! This is my favorite winery in my general area, and very reasonably priced.

    • 1 vote
    #1.11 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 11:08 PM EDT
    Enoch-2699399

    The limited release and Grenache look intriguing. I can see why this is your favorite. Thanks for sharing the link.

    • 2 votes
    #1.12 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 11:19 PM EDT
    Reply
    Kavika

    MD 20/20 and potato chips. Tokay and chocolate chip cookies. Annie Green Springs and anything.

    Just my humble opinion.

    Darn, almost forgot..$2 Buck Chuck and Kosher Winnabagel.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#2 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 9:52 PM EDT
    rochart

    You left out Boones Farm. ;^)

    • 2 votes
    #2.1 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:23 PM EDT
    Mrs D-1475814

    Strawberry Hill? :)

    • 2 votes
    #2.2 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:30 PM EDT
    Enoch-2699399

    Dear Friends Kavika and Rochart: $2 Buck Chuck and a Kosher Winnebagel sounds good to me.

    Boone's Farm and Faux Feta is nice too.

    • 2 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:31 PM EDT
    James Essayist

    I like merlot, cabernet, other reds and their blends, generally. For whites, a good chardonnay -not too oaky- and Kabinett or Spatlese rieslings at dessert. (Or port.) Just generally, I like almost any halfway decent wine, depending on what I'm having with it or what I have a taste for. (Or what I have in the house, lol.)

    I'm intrigued about a riesling cross that produces a red. How would you compare it for taste with cabernet, or syrah, or pinot noir. (I'm guessing it's less imposing than the strongest Red Burgundys?)

    • 1 vote
    #2.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:25 AM EDT
    Enoch-2699399

    Dear Friend James Essayist: Foch is a Burgundian type wine. It is less strong though. Riesling is a white wine. All wines start off white. The red are so because the skins are pressed harder to yield more tannins and pectin's. Also, they are aged longer. Riesling is the signature grape of the NYS Finger Lakes region. Foch grows as well here as Riesling. For reason obvious.

    Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc all grow well here too. Pretty much any Vinefera that has been gene spliced with a North American grape can overcome the root louse. This problem made it hard to grow European wine grapes like Vinefera until Dr. Konstantin Frank used root twisting (state of the art gene splicing in his time) to overcome the root louse issue. Foch is a bit more acidic than Sauvignon, Pinot Noir or Franc. It is far less peppery than Syrah. Foch grapes can come in small, almost like berries. They taste best from older vines.

    Great questions. I can see we share a love of wines in common. Thanks for the visit.

    Enoch.

    • 1 vote
    #2.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:39 AM EDT
    James Essayist

    Dear Friend Enoch: the source of redness in wines I knew of, and Riesling's usual color, too, but thank you for mentioning for those readers who might not. While aware that lots of Riesling, and various Labrusca varieties grew in New York, didn't know that red Vinifiera were planted there now, too.

    "... a bit more acidic than Sauvignon, Pinot Noir or France .... [but] less peppery than Syrah." Sounds definitely like one I want to try. Thanks for the great post and the info. Here's a link to ajust-published Slate article on wines.

      #2.6 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:39 PM EDT
      Enoch-2699399

      Dear James: Thanks for the post, and for the Slate link, A growing trend in retail wine purchasing is boxed wines. The contain wine in a collapsing plastic bag. That keeps the air out, so the wine lasts longer. Also, a box can contain the equivalent of up to four bottles of wine, and less than one quarter to one third the price. The wine you favor is what is best for you. It seems counter-intuitive, but paying a higher price isn't always where the value is.

      All best regards, Enoch.

        #2.7 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:29 PM EDT
        Reply
        Shelby Davenport

        Anything but Ripple and Thunderbird.

        You're way too sophisticated for me, but having been married to an Italian for what seemed like an interminable amount of time, I grew to like Santa Cristina Antinori, and any Ruffino, but especially the Chianti and Riserva Ducale. I like dry red, not sweet.

        There was an Italian white wine that I used to find that I don't remember who the producer was, that came in a really great bottle that looked like a fish. I haven't seen it for years and I'd love to find it again.

        Being married to the Italian, we had to have fresh peaches in season, sliced, placed in a wine glass, a small spoon full of sugar over the top, and then the glass filled with red wine and chilled for dessert. Ahhhh, it's goooood! I still do this during the summer.

        Then, prosciutto and melon with a nice white. THAT's fantastic!

        • 2 votes
        Reply#3 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:01 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Dear Friend Shelby Davenport: I am researching my next wine article about the Sangiovese grape. It is the primary grape used in making Chianti. I think you will find the article of interest.

        I too prefer dry red.

        An ideas for peaches. Cut them in half and pit them. Marinate them in a jar with brandy (distilled wine) cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg and allspice. When they absord all the spices and brandy, serve at room temperature with espresso.

        Enoch.

        • 2 votes
        #3.1 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:35 PM EDT
        Shelby Davenport

        Mmmmmmm. Looking forward to the article. I'll attempt to educate and lift my tastes from the big cheap bottles.

        • 1 vote
        #3.2 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:08 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Will e-mail you when the article is up. E.

        • 1 vote
        #3.3 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:19 PM EDT
        rochart

        An old family recipe that my family has is for "Friskie." This combines fruit, like blueberries, peaches, cranberries, or since I have moved to Hawaii, mango or papaya along with and equal part sugar and then Southern Comfort or vodka if you prefer. Age it all together for a few months in the dark. After that it is the best cold medicine on the planet for a cold winters night. ;^)

        Why "Friskie?" It kind of makes you feel that way, if you know what I mean. ;^)

        The fruit is then outstanding on ice cream by itself.

        • 1 vote
        #3.4 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 12:19 AM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Dear Friend Rochart: Sounds great Have to try it. Thanks for the heads up. E.

        • 1 vote
        #3.5 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 12:28 AM EDT
        rochart

        Well since it sounds like you're getting serious here, you need a 1 gallon jar or bottle, 4 cups of fruit, 4 cups of sugar and a 1/2 gallon or 1.75 liter of your chosen liquor. For about the first week you will need to shake the container in order to assist in the dissolving of the sugar. After that just allow it to "age" for 2-3 months. It will be like a cordial.

        • 1 vote
        #3.6 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 1:44 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Will do. Thanks. Kind of like the apple jack recipe in college. Thank heaven for dormitory floor board heating.

        • 1 vote
        #3.7 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 6:28 PM EDT
        Reply
        rochart

        Sake, rice wine, and some sushi with a great steak.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#4 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:24 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Sake also goes well with Chicken Yakatori, and Peking Duck.

        • 1 vote
        #4.1 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:35 PM EDT
        Reply
        Mrs D-1475814

        I don't drink wine anymore. I drank MD at Jay's Diner and had their Blue Plate Special the mystery meatloaf and I was sick for a week. :(

        • 3 votes
        Reply#5 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:29 PM EDT
        rochart

        I've never had the pleasure but I have heard that it is not the plate that is blue!

        • 3 votes
        #5.1 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:33 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Dear Friend Mrs. D: Mystery Meat in Surprise Sauce, three starches (potatoes, bread and pasta) with Mogen David Adom is the Monday Night Chef's Salute to Inert Ingredients.

        • 3 votes
        #5.2 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:38 PM EDT
        Mrs D-1475814

        LMAO!!!!! :)

        • 3 votes
        #5.3 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:28 PM EDT
        Reply
        Enoch-2699399

        Dear Friend Rochart: I once was given the Blue Plate Special. I also turned Blue. Mrs. E complained to our server. She said, "My husband ordered food that is Jewish, not calories that turn him blueish".

        • 4 votes
        Reply#6 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:40 PM EDT
        SuperSaiyan

        I don't drink wine that often, though I have to say that it's a good choice...

        • 3 votes
        Reply#7 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:54 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Dear Friend SS: Wine in moderation with a meal can enhance the fine dining experience.

        Cooking with wine boils out the alcohol, but not the Resveratrol. That powerful polysterol anti-oxidant really puts the brakes on the aging process.

        • 3 votes
        #7.1 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM EDT
        Shelby Davenport

        I marinate my steaks with a mix of 1/3 cup soy sauce and 2/3 cup red dry wine (for at least 3-4 hours). BBQ or broil and they are delicious!

        • 2 votes
        #7.2 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:10 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Great idea. Alcohol is a solvent. It will break up fatty tissue, grit and gristle.

        Make the meat more tender.

        • 1 vote
        #7.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:36 PM EDT
        Reply
        Grisham

        I like Zinfindel. I got a sweet tooth.

        • 4 votes
        #8 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:21 PM EDT
        Piletre

        Gris, me too.. Beringer White Zin with anything.

        • 2 votes
        #8.1 - Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:54 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Will be back later with some food pairing ideas for Zinfandel.

        • 2 votes
        #8.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 12:21 AM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        White Zinfandel food pairing ideas.

        Creamy Pastas (Alfredo Sauce)

        Strong Cheese (Cheddar, Gouda, Asiago, Dry Jack)

        Grilled Fins and Scales Fish

        Seafood Chiopinno

        • 2 votes
        #8.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 12:29 AM EDT
        Dowser

        I like Zinfandel, too!

        I like Liebfraumilch, with hot croissants, rondele cheese, and fresh fruit! Not THAT is a picnic! :-)

        • 1 vote
        #8.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 12:54 AM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Wine, fresh fruit, cheese and crackers do inded make a great picnic. Super idea.

        • 2 votes
        #8.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:40 AM EDT
        Dowser

        I sometimes bake crescent rolls, or go and pick up croissants at the bakery and heat them, then carry them in a warming "cooler"... It's a bit fancy, but fun! :-)

        • 1 vote
        #8.6 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:58 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Dear Friend Dowser: Mrs. Enoch and I bake our own. We find that there are too many trans fats, refined flours, sugars preservatives; and other "stuff" in commercially baked goods.

        Its a chore, we admit. What makes it all worth while is the fragrance of freshly baking things in our oven. Nothing quite like that aroma, is there?

        • 1 vote
        #8.7 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:32 PM EDT
        James Essayist

        Nothing like it. Used to be the only thing I got as a kid. Going to start doing the same for my family. A just-out-of-the-oven slice, just cooled enough to cut without shredding the whole loaf, and a bit of butter -- ambrosia.

        • 1 vote
        #8.8 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:36 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Your post brings back memories. In elementary school, my brother and I used to pass through Stephen Crane Village in Bloomfield, NJ. There was a bakery along the way.

        The bakery generally sold out what they baked overnight and shipped to restaurants by 5:00 AM. They left barrels of fresh hot rolls and breads for students and the indigent to take for free. Many mornings my brother and I skipped breakfast to dine on those fresh warm rolls and breads on the way to school. Yum!

        • 1 vote
        #8.9 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:44 PM EDT
        James Essayist

        Nice memory; I can almost taste it myself. I suppose with the Tylenol scare and E. coli outbreaks and what all else, no bakery today would risk the liability of leaving free food by their door.

        BTW, I meant to say above that homemade was the only bread we had. :)

          #8.10 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 7:05 AM EDT
          Enoch-2699399

          My how times have changed.

            #8.11 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 8:40 AM EDT
            Dowser

            I rarely bake anything at home because I don't like my kitchen... but at the camper, I'll bake about anything! :-) I like my kitchen camper! So, we take some pretty neat picnics from the camper. ;-)

            I love the smell of fresh baked bread. In my hometown, there is a bread company, and I still love to go home and park down the street from it, with all the windows rolled down, just the inhale. :-)

              #8.12 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 9:45 PM EDT
              Enoch-2699399

              I love the smell of fresh baked bread in the morning. Its like the smell of, victory.

              • 1 vote
              #8.13 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:13 PM EDT
              Dowser

              yes it is! :-)

                #8.14 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:19 PM EDT
                James Essayist

                Funny you should mention, Dowser-- we're not real fond of our kitchen either, but we've gotta eat. Good thing you've got your camper's galley as well. Do you pull up next to the house and use both for holiday cooking?

                • 1 vote
                #8.15 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 7:12 AM EDT
                Enoch-2699399

                Interesting question, good idea.

                • 1 vote
                #8.16 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 10:08 AM EDT
                Dowser

                We eat out. At Christmas and Thanksgiving, we go to my mother's house, and I bring 'take out' from Bob Evans for the main stuff, and I fix vegetables in her kitchen. I hate my kitchen. Passionately!

                Everything is white. The ex selected it. Try to cook in a white kitchen and not get anything on anything. White floors. White cabinets. White countertop. White appliances. I HATE it. I can make a mess in it by just boiling water, somehow... So, we eat out. Plus, it is arranged so that you run from one end to the other, constantly. The camper's kitchen is much nicer, easier to care for, and all in one spot, so to speak. I love my gas stove. I love my little refrigerator, and I LOVE my wood cabinets. NOTHING is white and all I can say is I love to cook there! Two steps in any direction and I'm there... Much better! :-)

                • 1 vote
                #8.17 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 3:33 PM EDT
                Enoch-2699399

                Dear Friend Dowser: I patonized Bob Evans on their Wednesday night special, "All you can keep down" buffet. They do the most ingenious things with plastics over there.

                • 1 vote
                #8.18 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 3:50 PM EDT
                Dowser

                That they do!

                good thing I have no taste buds left... :-)

                • 1 vote
                #8.19 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 3:58 PM EDT
                James Essayist

                At least it's not eating a whole roast duck at a Cantonese joint because it's the only place open on 12/15.

                ("But you see, it's .... it's, smiling at me!")

                • 1 vote
                #8.20 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 7:34 AM EDT
                James Essayist

                That should be 12/25.

                • 1 vote
                #8.21 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 7:34 AM EDT
                Enoch-2699399

                Dear James: Been there, done that. Also, when my Mother was alive we used to plan of taking her on Mother's Day to her favorite restaurant. It was a creek side place. The problem is half the time heavy rains would flood the creek, and the establishment would close down.

                So it was off to the nearest Oriental restaurant we could find. No reservations were necessary, even on Mother's Day.

                I recall one year when my son, then finishing elementary school, asked me, is Buddha's Delight required on Mother's Day? Mom and Grandma keep ordering it every year.

                • 1 vote
                #8.22 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 9:32 AM EDT
                James Essayist

                Sounds like your Mom's favorite restaurant was located a bit too close to the ambience, as it were.

                Just curious: Is Buddha's Delight a dish served at the Oriental place, or the name of the place?

                  #8.23 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 10:21 AM EDT
                  Enoch-2699399

                  It's a dish name. It is a vegan Oriental dish. Various vegetables in a peanut sauce. We used to get it with brown steamed rice, and either Jasmin or Oolong hot tea.

                    #8.24 - Sat Nov 5, 2011 6:41 PM EDT
                    James Essayist

                    Sounds great. I'll check the restaurants around here for it. Thanks.

                      #8.25 - Sun Nov 6, 2011 3:58 PM EST
                      Reply
                      Augur Well

                      A good choice, Enoch, the Foch! I know it!

                      But a nice Italian, maybe a Stella Pinot Grigio, with a nice grilled steak, lightly pepper'd, with a bit of grilled asparagus and a tomato salad on the side, delicious! If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Or just about anything from around the Asti region will find a happy home at my table too!

                      Lately, I've been getting introduced to a fair number of wines from South America, Chile, Peru, Argentina, whites and reds both, and I really haven't found one yet I haven't enjoyed. Some very delightful and interesting wines coming out of Peru these days.

                      Bon Apetite!

                        Reply#9 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:57 AM EDT
                        Grisham

                        Lately, I've been getting introduced to a fair number of wines from South America, Chile, Peru, Argentina, whites and reds both, and I really haven't found one yet I haven't enjoyed.

                        No Canadian wines?

                        Shame Auger, shame...

                        LOL

                          #9.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:43 AM EDT
                          Enoch-2699399

                          South American wines are way under rated. Agreed. Pinot Gris (Pinot Griggio) with grilled steak smothered in mushrooms and onions, and grilled asparagus sounds wonderful.

                          Asti Spumanti is a fantastic wine.

                          Thanks for the ideas, and the visit.

                          E.

                          • 1 vote
                          #9.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:43 AM EDT
                          Enoch-2699399

                          Grish: Canadian wines and Finger Lakes wines are very close. Great Ice Wine from both.

                          • 1 vote
                          #9.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:38 PM EDT
                          Augur Well

                          Grish!

                          Canadian wines? Really!?! They make anything beyond Canadian Club and Black Ice up there??

                          (Augur quickly ducking from the blizzard (pun intended!) of empty Canadian wine bottles flying about his head and shoulders! ROFL!)

                          And before someone sics their entire country on my poor butt, yep, there are some good wines from the Great White North! I'm also very, very partial to the wines all along the South Shore too, around our Lake Erie Islands and all along the area, from here all thru the New York areas. Great wines from both! Heineman's on South Bass, Lonz on the mainland, lots of small vintners making some very good nectars. Jack Christ Winery in Avon Lake, Ohio is a top favorite of mine, for years now. Always a terrific cab from them folks! A shameless and sadly an unpaid solicitation, I admit!

                            #9.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:25 PM EDT
                            Enoch-2699399

                            Wines are now produced in every one of the fifty states in the USA. Much more than during prohibition. Who would have thunk it?

                            • 1 vote
                            #9.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:36 PM EDT
                            Augur Well

                            Wines are now produced in every one of the fifty states in the USA.

                            Really! I did not know that! Learn sumthin' new every day! (*grin*!)

                            • 1 vote
                            #9.6 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:48 PM EDT
                            Enoch-2699399

                            Nods. Renaissance time for the grape.

                            • 1 vote
                            #9.7 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:58 PM EDT
                            James Essayist

                            The current biggies on a local by-the-glass menu are a Chardonnay, a Sauv. Blanc and a Pinot Grigio for whites; Malbec, Syrah and Merlot for reds, and a Prosecco for sparkler.

                            • 1 vote
                            #9.8 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:43 PM EDT
                            Enoch-2699399

                            Dear Friend James: Malbec is an interesting case. It is originally a French wine. The French used is in blends to even out and take the edge off two strong and opposing wine flavors.

                            The Mendoza region of Argentina now produces much of the Malbec imbibed and used in blends in the USA. It does seem to be gaining a toe hold as a stand alone sipping wine.

                            E.

                              #9.9 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:36 PM EDT
                              James Essayist

                              And that is indeed where the two on that list come from. Interesting that Cab Franc, Malbec and Carminere, all deemed by the French as useful only for blending with Cab and Merlot to make Bordeaux, are now successful on their own. I'll get Cabernet and Merlot as low-priced as is practical, and mix them about 3:2, making my own "Chateau Embankment."

                                #9.10 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:40 PM EDT
                                Enoch-2699399

                                Dear Friend James: Custom blending, you are my kind of friend!

                                French wines like Gamay and Chambourcin are making their way upstate. We even have Rkatseteli from Vinefera Vineyards under the Dr. Frank label. That is supposed to be impossible to grow here. Good things grapes can't read or surf the net, eh?

                                  #9.11 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:47 PM EDT
                                  James Essayist

                                  If grapes could read/net surf, they'd rise up like the eggplants in the Courage the Cowardly Dog episode. :D

                                  For something off the usual track, how about retsina or kokinelli? When the drinking law here was lowered to 19 for a few years, I would buy retsina and never be carded. If I got a six-pack of beer, bang!, "Let's see some ID, kid." I guess they figured that anyone who walked straight to the Italian/Greek section of the store and brought a bottle of retsina to the checkout must be old enough, because they didn't believe somebody underage drinking it. (I wasn't underage, but looked it. Those days are gone. *sigh*)

                                    #9.12 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 6:58 AM EDT
                                    Enoch-2699399

                                    What I wouldn't give for the compliment of being carded again at my age. The same holds true for one of my High School Class mates, Moses. Smiles.

                                    E.

                                      #9.13 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 8:42 AM EDT
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                                      Vlad's dog

                                      Night Train goes good with a dark alley and a dumpster to lean on.

                                      A gallon of Muscatel goes good with a fire in the woods near train tracks.

                                      A cold gallon of Port goes good with sitting next to the lake and tarzan swing and pretty girls in skimpy bikinis jumping off and getting wet.

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                                      Reply#10 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:48 AM EDT
                                      Augur Well

                                      Night Train goes good with a dark alley and a dumpster to lean on.

                                      omg, Vlad, is that stuff still made these days? My head is spinning just thinking of that stuff! ROFL!

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                                      #10.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:53 AM EDT
                                      Vlad's dog

                                      It has been years since I tippled that swill AW. LOL

                                        #10.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:00 AM EDT
                                        Augur Well

                                        Years?!?!?! Decades!!!! ROFL!

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #10.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:04 AM EDT
                                        James Essayist

                                        I like the scenery you have with your cold port, Vlad's. :D

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #10.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:26 AM EDT
                                        Enoch-2699399

                                        The above last five posts reminds me of Eddie Murphy's reading on Saturday Night Live when he portrayed the character, Pimp Velvet Jones. In his book, "Be a Ho", he read,

                                        "As I whispered sweet words of nothing in her ear, I knew the 75 cent I invested in a five gallon plastic box covered wine was money well spent"!

                                        Ah memories.

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                                        #10.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:47 AM EDT
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                                        Jackie-2759125

                                        I don't often drink wine anymore but when I was in Germany serving in the Air Force, I went to many a wine tasting tour and festivals. The area we lived in was the Rhineland Pfalz region, the village we lived in was Fliessem. The Rhine is known for it's wines, they tend to be on the sweeter side, mostly white wine. I really liked the flavor. On the cheap side, Lambrusco, a sweet red, was my favorite for many years until I went overboard "enjoying" it.

                                        http://www.tompgalvin.com/places/de/rheinland_pfalz/1_de_rp.htm

                                        http://www.moseldirect.com/en/03german_riesling/1german_riesling.asp

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#11 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:09 AM EDT
                                        Enoch-2699399

                                        Northern German, French and Russian wine grapes all grow well here in upstate NY. similar climate.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #11.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:12 AM EDT
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                                        Kearney Outlaw

                                        My favorite is "Why am I not published? I'm a decent writer! I coulda been a contender!"

                                        When I'm drinking, it's usually something cheap. Barefoot Pinot Grigio.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#12 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:17 AM EDT
                                        Lois-Lane

                                        I love Pinot Gris. Adelsheim and Willamette Valley vineyards are the best I've had. Sweeter than Grigio. Italian wine. Great taste. As far as whites go, after that would be the Rieslings, then the other German wines, i.e, the Liebfraumilch and Rheinhessen

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #12.1 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 3:17 PM EDT
                                        Enoch-2699399

                                        Good Oregon and German wine selections. Thanks for sharing. FR invite sent.

                                        Enoch.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #12.2 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 6:29 PM EDT
                                        Lois-Lane

                                        Thank you.

                                        Accepted. :)

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #12.3 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 12:37 PM EDT
                                        Enoch-2699399

                                        Dear Friend Lois-Lane: You are most welcome. Thank you. E.

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                                        #12.4 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 1:49 PM EDT
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                                        Enoch-2699399

                                        Barefoot is one of the closest things to wine known to humanity.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#13 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 1:18 PM EDT
                                        Kearney Outlaw

                                        LOL! I LIKE my wine-flavored Kool Aid with a bit of alcohol in it!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #13.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 1:24 PM EDT
                                        Enoch-2699399

                                        Then Barefoot it shall be.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #13.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT
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                                        SavickConn

                                        Does it go with beans? I only ask because here in Texas we only have four food groups. Barbeque, bread, beans and Bourbon.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#14 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:45 PM EDT
                                        Enoch-2699399

                                        The Four B's. Perfect.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #14.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:37 PM EDT
                                        SavickConn

                                        Yea, sometimes we have a fifth one, bacon, but only when it's in season. Yep, *pats stomach* gotta keep healthy.

                                          #14.2 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 3:28 PM EDT
                                          Enoch-2699399

                                          Agreed. Eating unhealthy isn't kosher. Smiles, winks.

                                          Enoch.

                                            #14.3 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 6:30 PM EDT
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                                            Piletre

                                            I was reading all the wine comments and thought, Hmmm, I live in wine country.. wonder what I can find on-line about my area. Well! Did I get a shock! I guess it's like people who live in someplace like Paris, or London or even next to Disneyland, after awhile, one doesn't pay attention to all the hoopla... The tourists are what you stare at..lol

                                            I found out that out of the top 6 wines of 2010, Sonoma and Napa had 4 spots. Out of the top wineries in the U.S.. I stopped counting how many were in Sonoma/Napa.

                                            I have just gotten cranky over the years at the wineries because about all we see anymore are vineyards.. Our apple orchards have been ripped out for .. yup, vineyards.. The apple processing plant closed, no apples. Even our town's annual Apple Blossom Festival is becoming a joke because there are so few apple orchards in the area anymore. Our dairies have been sold to.. yup, big corporations for yet MORE vineyards. Down the road where hubby and I grew up, the town was famous for being "The Chicken Capital of the World".. no more.. guess what they are growing instead of chickens?

                                            Anyway, THAT said, hubby told me the other day that he wants to go visit a winery.. WHAT?? That statement from a man who doesn't drink wine! He said that there's a new winery that he thinks I will like to viist and take the tour. OK, I looked it up online and it looks interesting.. sort of Hollywoodish and VERY touristy, but interesting.. I told him though that we are not paying $68 EACH to ride around out in the vineyards in the horse-drawn vineyard tours. I see vineyards every time I get in my car and drive in any direction.

                                            Here's the winery's website: Castello de Amorosa I'll go, I guess, but I can't take the dog.. The winery is just across the valley and the hill, so we can be back home in a reasonable amount of time.

                                            I just like my Beringer White Zin.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            Reply#15 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 2:37 AM EDT
                                            Enoch-2699399

                                            Dear Friend Piletre: Two things would nix a winery tour for me. One is being charged for a hayride or handsome cab ride. Its good P.R. for the winery or vineyard. That should be complimentary.

                                            The second reason, and this applies across the board for anything. Any place that will not let you take your dog isn't good enough for the family of the dog. Period!

                                            Where you live, I am sure you can find a nice winery or vineyard with free rides, tour, and complimentary wine tasting. Either they are in the wine business, or they are in the tourist trap business. Both is spreading themselves too thin to be of interest.

                                            Cheers. Enoch.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #15.1 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 8:48 AM EDT
                                            Piletre

                                            Enoch, I guess the owners of the "castle" have to pay for the building of the castle and all that artwork, too. ;-) The $68 for the ride around in the vineyards is on top of all the other fees.(Makes me think of that song, "Mustang Sally".. Ride, Sally, Ride).

                                            Used to be, the wine tastings at all the wineries was free, but no more. One pays for the glass and gets like 3 small different "tastes".. or something like that. Seems to me if one is sampling different wines, one would like a clean glass for each wine.. I'm not sure if the glass is washed between servings or not. I doubt it, not when the tasting room is stuffed with people from the tour busses.

                                            Oh well... we have different friends who have small vineyards and make and bottle their own wine and give to us .. I pass it on to others because I only like .. ta Dah.. Beringer..lol..

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #15.2 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 12:18 PM EDT
                                            Enoch-2699399

                                            Dear Friend Piletre: in Upstate NY, if they charge you at all for wine tasting, for $2 you get six selections you choose. If you buy wine, the $2 is credited toward the purchase. If you want to take a wine glass home, you can buy one at the gift shop. At festivals, they give you a free wine glass with the Festival information etched into the glass.

                                            Agricultural wineries are always cheaper and better quality than commercial wineries.

                                            Good call.

                                            Enoch.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #15.3 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 6:34 PM EDT
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                                            Lois-Lane

                                            My favorite wine of the month (or rather the last 2-1/2 months is Malvasia di Castelnuovo di Don Bosco, "Little Bosco." great, fruity, red and robust. I love it and I'm not even a red wine lover. It has a bit of an "Asti" quality - sort of sparkling but not as full bodied as a Spumante.

                                            Cheap enough - about $12 to $15.00 per bottle. Great taste and buy.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            Reply#16 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 3:10 PM EDT
                                            Enoch-2699399

                                            Nice choice. Thanks for the information. Have to give it a try. Enoch.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #16.1 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 6:36 PM EDT
                                            Lois-Lane

                                            Enoch: You are most welcome. I'd be interested to know what you thought of it after trying...

                                              #16.2 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 12:35 PM EDT
                                              Enoch-2699399

                                              Dear Friend Lois Lane: Will do. As soon as I can try Little Bosco, I will be back in touch.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #16.3 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM EDT
                                              Lois-Lane

                                              sounds good, Enoch!

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #16.4 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 2:18 PM EDT
                                              Enoch-2699399

                                              Dear Friend Lois-Lane: I tried Malvasia Di Castel Nuovo Don Bosco (Little Bosco) in two different ways.

                                              First, I tried it as a stand alone sparkling wine. The one I tried was produced by the Bava family in the northern parts of the Province of Asti, Italy. It is 100% Malvasia di Schierano grapes.

                                              It does have an attractive sweetness to it. Perhaps as an after dinner wine it would be best used as a stand alone. I can easily see using this as a mixer for blended cocktails.

                                              I noticed a Cherry red color, fresh intense aroma; and a slight tannic content that mellowed out sweetness.

                                              The second way I tried it was to pour a few teaspoons over a small cup of strawberries and cream. It was a nice finishing touch to the fresh dairy and fruit.

                                              Thank you kindly for bringing this to my attention.

                                              Enoch.

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #16.5 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 4:02 PM EDT
                                              Lois-Lane

                                              Hey Enoch! You are most welcome... and I am glad you had a chance to try it. Was it hard to find? I have only seen it in one store - and, luckily for me, that is my neighborhood spirits store. LOL.

                                              I'll have to try it as you did, with the strawberries and cream. I did try it, though, as a splash in my bombay sapphire and bitter lemon drink. It went VERY well.. it doesn't go well with Hendricks gin, though... maybe it's the cucumber taste or something.. just did not mesh well at all.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #16.6 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 10:48 AM EST
                                              Enoch-2699399

                                              Dear Friend Lois: The store had to special order it. They got it in the next day. Certain days they get shipments. I got lucky, and didn't have to wait. Smiles, Enoch.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #16.7 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 12:48 PM EST
                                              Lois-Lane

                                              Cool!

                                                #16.8 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 2:58 PM EST
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                                                Dowser

                                                I thought of my very favorite, which is odd, but I can't get it here-- I have to go up to Indiana to a winery to find it-- honey mead. WOW, my very favorite!

                                                • 1 vote
                                                Reply#17 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 9:46 PM EDT
                                                Enoch-2699399

                                                Honey mead was big in the Renaissance times in England, was it not?

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #17.1 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:14 PM EDT
                                                Dowser

                                                I think it was-- there is a winery not far from here, (about 2 hours, but we go there about once every 10 years or so), that sells mead, and I love it! It is great for winter-- warm and comforting.

                                                  #17.2 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:20 PM EDT
                                                  Enoch-2699399

                                                  There used to be an apiary called Wixon's in Dundee, NY. An agricultural winery in Himrod used to buy surplus honey from them, and make mead. It was always a limited production, depending on honey available. And it was always luscious, and non-uniform. Each batch was quite unlike the last.

                                                  Walnut, Orange Blossom, Buckwheat, etc. Every different type of honey generated a different property Meade.

                                                  The annual Renaissance in Sterling Forest, NY features Meade among its refreshments for people of age. Interestingly, when they drink too much of it they never act their age!

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #17.3 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:28 PM EDT
                                                  Dowser

                                                  LOL! This place is Oliver's Winery in Bloomington, IN. Fun place to go! I wish I could find a more local source, it is very difficult to get there from here! :-)

                                                    #17.4 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:37 PM EDT
                                                    Enoch-2699399

                                                    Dear Friend Dowser: Can you speak with a local wine and spirits retailer?

                                                    They do fill special orders. You will pay a bit more per bottle for it. But it is still way cheaper than the cost of driving round trip from Louisville to West Bloomington.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #17.5 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:57 PM EDT
                                                    Dowser

                                                    That is certainly worth a try! Thanks for the suggestion! :-)

                                                      #17.6 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 12:11 AM EDT
                                                      Enoch-2699399

                                                      Also, if the IN winery has a web site, see if they ship direct. that may be your cheapest option. If they do not have a web site, use search engines for contact information. then write or call them. They make no money not selling product.

                                                      Smiles. Enoch.

                                                        #17.7 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 12:30 AM EDT
                                                        Dowser

                                                        Found it! I may have to order some! :-)

                                                        Oliver's Winery

                                                          #17.8 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 12:33 AM EDT
                                                          Enoch-2699399

                                                          Thanks for the link. Oliver's doesn't ship to NYS at this time, says to their website. I will have to try it when I closer to Kentuckyana. E.

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #17.9 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 10:10 AM EDT
                                                          Dowser

                                                          They don't ship here, either! RATS!!! ;-)

                                                            #17.10 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 3:35 PM EDT
                                                            Enoch-2699399

                                                            Try special ordering through a local vendor then.

                                                            If you find yourself in IN, buy a case as you have in the past. Make sure they give you a 10% case discount though.

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                                                            #17.11 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 3:53 PM EDT
                                                            Dowser

                                                            I think I'll try that, maybe after Christmas, when finances are better... Or look for a more local source. ;-)

                                                            • 1 vote
                                                            #17.12 - Fri Nov 4, 2011 3:59 PM EDT
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                                                            Sydney - 5

                                                            Thanks for the info, E.

                                                            Lately, I've been pairing an Argentinian Malbec, Don Miguel Gascon, with steak. It's a dry, full bodied red wine "with flavors of blackberry, blueberry, cherry and a hint of mocha." (Got that off the bottle.)

                                                            I also am fond lately of brie and apple or pear slices with Yellow Tail Chardonnay, which seems to have become my go-to white.

                                                            My absolute fave red is The Johnson Estates' Ives. Made not all that far from you. According to their website, it was a double gold winner in the Great Lake's Wine Competition and has also picked up a couple bronzes. "Mellow and distinctive Lake Erie Area...."

                                                            I see that winery also makes a Marechal Foch. I've never tried it, but I think I will.

                                                            Here's their website, in case you might be interested:

                                                            http://johnsonwinery.com/jos_winery.html

                                                            Clipping.

                                                              Reply#18 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 4:01 PM EST
                                                              Enoch-2699399

                                                              Dear Friend Sydney-5:Thanks for the link. It is not far from me. Have to make a pilgrimage. I see they have Traminette. Try blending Traminette with cherry wine. Call it Cherrytram. Its a semi sweet that way. Good after dinner sipping.

                                                              Enoch.

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                                                              #18.1 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 5:05 PM EST
                                                              Sydney - 5

                                                              Really? A new one to me. Good to know. WIll have to try that.

                                                              I think I need to order a selection from them. And more Ives. Much more Ives. :)

                                                              Westfield is a nice little town. Full of historic architecture. Quite charming for that alone, as I recall.

                                                                #18.2 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST
                                                                Enoch-2699399

                                                                Its not that far from either me or Neale Osborne. Maybe he and I can make a pilgrimage. E.

                                                                  #18.3 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 8:36 PM EST
                                                                  Sydney - 5

                                                                  I once live in Brocton and worked in Mayville, both next door to Westfield. Wish I'd know about the winery then.

                                                                  Maybe he and I can make a pilgrimage

                                                                  LOL! Now you've got me thinking of the Canterbury Tales. Let me know if you need anyone to play the Wife of Bath. :)

                                                                    #18.4 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 10:31 PM EST
                                                                    Enoch-2699399

                                                                    We can make it a musical. You will be featured in a solo. A few bars of the song Soap!

                                                                      #18.5 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 10:47 PM EST
                                                                      Sydney - 5

                                                                      LOL. Can I also do the Rubber Duckie Song? Kinda the same theme. :)

                                                                      (Sydney, searching for a really good head shot to go in the playbill.)

                                                                        #18.6 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 11:22 PM EST
                                                                        Enoch-2699399

                                                                        LOL

                                                                          #18.7 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 11:33 PM EST
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