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Loving Your Neighbor As Yourself By Holly348328 and Enoch

Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:08 PM EST
religion, christianity, judaism, self, neighbor, loving
By Enoch-2699399
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Our good friend Holly and I will present a central concept in each of our heritages. That is to love your neighbor as yourself.

In the comments section, please share the wisdom of your tradition, community and/or your original thoughts on why this is a good idea. For guidance, kindly see my first comment.

HOLLY: Christianity teaches us over and over to love our neighbor as ourselves. Examples abound in the Bible.

Leviticus 19:18 Thous shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but shalt love thy neighbor as thyself; I am the LORD.

Leviticus 19:34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your GOD.

Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Matthew: 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have life eternal?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God: but if thou wilt enter into life; keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thous shalt not commit adultery, Thus shalt not steal, Thous shalt not bear false witness.

19 Honor thy Father and thy Mother; and Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

Matthew: 22:35 The one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,

26 Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thous shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, which is the first commandment of all?

29 And Jesus answered him, the first commandment is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 

32 And the scribe said unto him, Well Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God: and there is no other but he:

33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.

34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thous art not far from the Kingdom of God.  And no man after that durst ask him any question.

Luke 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

Luke 10:                 

25 And behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? How readest thou?

27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.

28 And he said unto him, thous hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not cover; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thous shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is fulfilling of the law.  

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the Church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious Church, not having a spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing: but that is should be Holy and without blemish.

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the Church:

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the Church.

33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

James 2:8 If ye fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, Thus shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well.

9 But if ye respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.    

One if the musings of Christians truly catches my eye when I say: "We have not loved our neighbors as ourselves. We are truly sorry and humbly repent..." What do we really mean?

Well, my neighbor exhibits good examples of behavior and bad. My neighbor has threatened my dog with death, but he has also has an ambulance come to his house late at night when someone was in distress.

My neighbor has been know to acquire drugs for people in the neighborhood, yet has also had the ambulance come because of a bad diabetic reaction. He is unemployed due to the economy and ineligible for benefits because his doctor says he is healthy enough to work, even though work does not exist for the most part for those who suffer from such afflictions.

My neighbor lost his wife last Christmas and has had his children move in with him as a result, so they can help him with his heart problems and failing eyesight. They park many boats and SUV's on our block as a result.

My neighbor works for a grocery store chain, and works odd hours - sometimes late into the night at age 70 because she cannot afford to retire yet. Her husband is retired military, so this illustrates how little this pension can be.

My neighbor also has carpal tunnel syndrome and cannot work. She relies on a workman's compensation settlement in order to survive.

Who am I to judge my neighbor?

On Christmas Day, I received a fudge wheel, a bag of tamales, good wishes and happy faces. These were worth more to me than any Christmas movie could convey.

We dig each other's vehicles our during snowstorms and pick up each other's kids/grand kids when we have to work and are prevented from going to school. We advise each other when strange cars observe our houses or traverse the neighborhood. We serve food to those who have none. We gather money packages when someone is laid off or fired.   

This is the true calling of the neighbor. One who reserves judgement and only seeks to help, even if help is only temporary. God bless all my neighbors!    

 

ENOCH: In Vayekrah 19-18 (Leviticus 19:18) it is written "--- You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself".

This is perhaps the most comprehensive rule of conduct that is the essence of religion. It applies to every human relation, and to all of humanity. Rabbi Hillel paraphrased it by saying, "Whatever is hateful to you, avoid doing to your fellow man". He saw it as the over riding principle of Divine Law. For him, all the rest of the Laws, Customs, and Traditions are a commentary on it.

Judaism over the course of its long and distinguished history is replete with references to this rule of major import.

Ben Sira says, "Honor your neighbor as yourself".

Tobit tells his son, "What displeases you, don't to to others".

Historians and philosophers Philo and Josephus say similar things.

Rabbi Hillel was asked by an adversary of the Jewish religion to condense for him to a sound byte (Regal Ehad - Standing on One Foot) all Divine Law. Hillel replied, "What ever is hateful to you, don't do it to others". This is the whole Torah. The rest is commentary".

Eleazar Ben-Arach said, "Let your neighbor's honor be as dear to you as your own".

Following the destruction of the Great Temple, Rabbi Akiba said, "You should love your neighbor as yourself is a fundamental rule in the Torah".

Rabbi Ben-Azzai, a contemporary of Akiva agreed, providing that this rule is understood in the context of Baraysheet 5-1 (Genesis 5-1). Since G-d created humanity in his own image, it is a matter of no less than reverence for G-d that we recognize the essential unity of all humankind. All of us are created in the Divine Image. Therefore, all of us are entitled to human love reflecting Divine love.

Morality, which makes love practically possible, is either universal, or it isn't moral at all. The mystic Judah the Pious said, "On the Day of Judgment, The Holy One, blessed be, will call upon every nation to account for each violation of the commandment to love your neighbor as yourself".

That this love is universal and applies to all humanity can be found in Vayekrah 34. "You will treat the stranger (Ger) who travels among you as if he is your home born neighbor. You will love him as you do yourself; for you were strangers (Gerim) in the land of Egypt".

 

As we Jewish People never strayed from our G-d given religion, neither is it necessary for anyone of any non-Jewish religion to leave their faith, covenant and mission to enjoy our unqualified love.

Why is this rule so important?

It is a vital part of how we should live our lives most abundantly, humanely, and in the Service of G-d through service to humanity. This must take place while addressing the practicalities of life.

"Eem ain anili, mili? Eem lo bishvili, leatsmi? Veh eem lo aksahve, ad matai"?

As Rabbi Hillel said, If I am not for myself, who will be? If I am only for myself, what am I? If not now, when"?

Loving your neighbor as yourself entails living beyond only for yourself.

The time to start is now!

          

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Enoch-2699399

The Code of Honor is in play here. In addition, posters must answer to a higher authority and standard.

Please stay on topic and be positive. This article is about why loving your neighbor as yourself is a good idea. Anything other than that belongs in a separate article. You are encouraged to write that on your own, should you so desire.

Derailing, snarking, trolling, going off topic. being negative, and attacking a person, faith, community or tradition rather than addressing the idea in hand will result in immediate deletion of the errant post.

That said, we look forward to hearing your good thoughts on this very important topic.

Peace Blessings, and your best year yet on 2012.

Holly and Enoch.

  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:22 PM EST
Grisham

Well done Holly and Enoch. Love they Neighbor is my favorite saying or verse in the Bible. You both did an excellent job of expanding on the theme.

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:33 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Grish: Its big around our house too. Thanks for the kind words. E.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:47 PM EST
King Dave

I am not here to spoil the party or good will towards others. Good article. However:

Loving Your Neighbor As Yourself

...or else!

The first obvious problem with compulsory love, is that it crumbles under scrutiny. Are we supposed to love a child killers the same way we love our children? What about Bin Laden and Rev. Jim Jones? Consequently, Rev. Jim Jones and Bin Laden are thought of by their communities as Men of Perfect faith, and because of religion, have forgiven themselves even before committing their actual crimes. The Bible teaches, recommends, in fact commands harm to others of a different faith, especial the old Testament. The Christian Bible tells us everything like mass murder, rape, bigotry, intolerance, inequality is forgivable, whilst the rejection of Jesus as Christ is the only sin that is not.

Is that morality?

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:49 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend King Dave: What does the atheist community think about the value of loving your neighbor as yourself? One benefit of this type of threads is that all communities, approaches to life, collective and individual thoughts get the chance to be represented. We are interested to hear of your take on this topic of mutual importance.

We are glad you enjoyed the article. You are most welcome and encouraged to share your groups views. We look forward to learning from the wisdom of your community.

All best wishes for a super 2012 to you and yours.

Peace and Blessings, Enoch.

  • 7 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:37 AM EST
TruettCollins

King Dave - one of the things I see in love thy neighbor is that if all these examples you give had practiced it, the events they are responsible for would not have happened.

  • 5 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:28 AM EST
MoCowgirl-1193719

The first obvious problem with compulsory love, is that it crumbles under scrutiny.

King Dave,

I agree. I am friendly and helpful as long as I am dealing with like minded people.

Enoch and Holly,

I saw this article last night and had to give it a lot of consideration before I posted a comment ... or even considered posting a comment because of the complexity of addressing this issue with mere words on the internet.

I feel no need to tolerate abuse or abusers, so I don't. I refuse to be a part of their support group. I promote education, tolerance and peace, but that does not mean that I am anyone's possession, slave or doormat.

Stockholm syndrome addresses one example of people who support their abusers. I will not support a rule that commands that I treat abusers better than they treat me nor would I expect others to do so.

I have spent an inordinate amount of my life having empathy for people who had none for me (or anyone else). I finally ended associations with those type of people, and I am happier, more contented, and more peaceful than at any other time in my life. I would never consider going through it again for any reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

In psychology, Stockholm Syndrome is an apparently paradoxical psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness.

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#1.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:38 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend MoCowgirl: There is no need for, and any reason to be a doormat for anyone. That is not the same as loving your neighbor as yourself.

Loving your neighbor as yourself merely means that you should treat your neighbor no less poorly than you treat yourself. Its does not mean, and never did mean letting anyone abuse you.

That said, all best wishes for the New Year. May it be your best one yet.

Peace and Blessings, Enoch.

  • 6 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:58 PM EST
MoCowgirl-1193719

Dear Friend Enoch,

There is no need for, and any reason to be a doormat for anyone. That is not the same as loving your neighbor as yourself.

It is nice to know that we are in agreement. I am sensitive about this subject because of my experiences with abusive people who have used this "rule" as some kind of justification to condemn me (and others) when we don't conform to their standard of "love"...which is why I was hesitant to try to find the proper words to explain my thoughts in a format that often hinders or limits the meaning that I want to convey.

I think most people mean well towards each other and normally act kindly toward each other. However, years of being under the control of abusive people can has made me extremely assertive to standing up against abusers and abusive systems. I try not to be aggressive toward people who mean no harm, but I don't always succeed. The last thing I want to be is an abuser myself.

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#1.8 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

You are doing just fire. You can only be as kind to others as they let you.

E.

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#1.9 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:56 PM EST
Al-316

Enoch and Holly, you chose a topic that deserves more attention than it gets. Well done, my friends.

  • 3 votes
#1.10 - Fri Jan 6, 2012 2:44 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend AL: Agreed.

I wish you and yours the very best year yet in 2012.

Peace and Blessings, my dear friend. Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Fri Jan 6, 2012 8:50 PM EST
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Pat from Montana

Thank you both.

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Reply#2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:34 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Pat: Thanks for your kindness. All the best in 2012 to you and yours. E.

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#2.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:48 PM EST
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grump in NM

It seems so simple, doesn't it? My mother taught me the "golden rule"when I was 4 years old and it stuck. That is one of my first memories of my mother -- when she was telling me to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

I am astounded when "leaders" in the religious community don't seem to understand this very basic idea.

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:49 PM EST
maria lyn

Hello Neighbors great article/I could of wrote it almost myself. Loving thy neighbor is a hard thing for a lot of people to learn. And yet like grump in NM said it is such a simple concept.

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:01 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friends Grump and maria lyn: It is classic in its simplicity. Ideas to be of value do not need complexity, or subtlety. They just need to be of enduring value.

I opine that his one has and will continue to stand the test of time.

I thank each of your for your sagacity and your humanity.

Peace and Blessings. E.

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#3.2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:17 PM EST
grump in NM

Enoch, I have been reading these comments and I am enjoying the message. But, I am puzzled.

When someone does something (here on the vine) that is entirely against my beliefs and things I hold dear, what should I do? As it stands now, I simply state what is important to me and wait for their response. If they tell me "who cares", I turn and walk away, not arguing, not lecturing.

There is no reason to argue with them once they have dismissed me, but at least I did tell them what was important to me. There is not much more than I can do, is there? I can still love them and care about them but there is now a great obstacle.

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#3.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:09 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend GINM: You can accept them for the good things they actually are, and the potentially good things they can become. People like to be and feel accepted. Perhaps a positive approach may yield some results. If so, its certainly worth a try.

All best wishes for a happy healthy meaningful and prosperous New Year to you and yours.

Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#3.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:27 PM EST
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The Opposition

Very well done, both of you! "Loving your neighbor" is commonly thought of as a "Christian" concept, but it is one of the most important practices, not only for Christians, but for all people to simply live with one another in fairness, respect, and peace.

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:55 PM EST
maria lyn

I say Amen to that. Maria

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#4.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:02 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friends Opposition and maria lyn: It is universal in its scope, range and domain.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Enoch.

  • 4 votes
#4.2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:19 PM EST
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Neron Kesar

Great choice for theme, Holly and Enoch. I will add some thoughts tomorrow when I have more time.

  • 6 votes
#5 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:09 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Neron Kesar: We look forward to your thoughts. All best wishes for the New Year. Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#5.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:20 PM EST
Neron Kesar

When founded, biblical commentator William Barclay asserts Christianity was revolutionary because of its unique emphasis on a type of love called in the Greek "agape".

The English word "charity" is a translation of "agape".

For contemporary Greeks, "charity" meant "compassion", but its expression was limited to those who suffered for no fault of their own. Christians added another dimension of meaning unknown or unpopular in Greek culture. Christianity, modeled after the example of Jesus Christ, expressed charity for those who suffered innocently AND for those who suffered due to their own fault.

Thus philosophically there is a major difference between Christianity and other religions found in Christianity's emphasis on an unwarranted love. Christianity welcomes those individuals no one else wants.

The Christian concept of love -- reflected in selfless service -- stems from devotion to Jesus Christ rather than a desire to invent some new idea or another humanistic philosophy. The highest love is the revealed will of God demonstrated through the actions and practical teachings of His Son.

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#5.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:45 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Neron Kesar: Your post contains factually inaccurate statements. Agape was preceded by thousands of years by Chesid (Hebrew for loving kindness). They both function identically.

Agape is not new with or exclusive to Christianity. That doesn't mean it isn't important. It is. Saying other religions lack something which they had and have practiced for thousands of years before Christianity existed is not true.

All best wishes for the New Year.

Peace and Blessings (Shalom U'vracha). Enoch.

  • 4 votes
#5.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:05 PM EST
Neron Kesar

Perhaps Barclay meant it was new to the Greek/Gentile world. Thank you for the clarification.

  • 5 votes
#5.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:36 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Thanks for the post and the visit. E.

  • 3 votes
#5.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:57 PM EST
Neron Kesar

Even if one accepts that unconditional, neighborly love was latent or explicit in Judaism, it was not practiced to the extent it should. The Parable of the Good Samaritan* makes this clear.

The concept of neighbor is supposed to extend beyond racial lines until it is universal. In the end all humankind will be gathered into the love of God.

Historically, Judaism not only segregated Gentiles as outsiders, but also Jews who were considered ritually impure. Perhaps the starkest proof of this was the partitioning of the Temple grounds.

Christianity offered a home and positive identity for misfits, something Judaism did not. The messiah identified with misfits (Isaiah 53).

_________________________

* Luke 10:25-37.

  • 3 votes
#5.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 4:57 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Really? Why then is there the term Ghetto? It came historically from Ghetto Nuevo in Italy. That is right, Jews weren't allowed to live where non-Jews did by some, but not all Christians. The shameful history of anti-Jewish prejudice and persecution by some but not all Christians demolishes the theory set forth in your above post. So does the Christian doctrine that only those who accept Jesus as their personal Messiah attain or are granted salvation. That is religious prejudice raised to an art form. But the way, no where in Judaism is it written that only Jews are saved, or that non-Jews must abandon their religious heritage to earn salvation. See Shevat Dini Noach (The Seven Noachite laws).

The Good Smaraitan parable, if historically accurate only documents that some people in the Jewish Community did not practice loving their neighbor as themselves. Not all. Same for Christians. What this shows is that as a species we are all imperfect. It does not show that one group holds a monopoly on a given virtue.

Ask any victim of liquidated, harmed, discrimination against and persecuted such as gays, people of color, other religions etc. who were so victimized by some but not all Christians.

Even today, ask anyone whose faith was make subject for predatory practice like the sin of Evangelism. Christianity is one of the religions who does engage in missionary blasphemy. That is as clear an example of religious intolerance as is the repeated but inaccurate claim that any one group holds a monopoly and unerring practice of loving ones neighbor as ones self.

Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. No one is entitled to their own facts. Once subjective, they cease to be in the fact category.

All best wishes, Enoch.

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#5.7 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:29 PM EST
Neron Kesar

Thank you for being candid.

The messiah identified with misfits as one of their own (Isaiah 53). Ironically, the prophets taught the destiny of the Jews as a nation and race depends on their acceptance of a messiah they have learned to despise and reject. Their very soul as a people has thus been taught by centuries of self-imposed barriers to self-destruct in the end. They cannot save themselves by rejecting only method chosen by God for their salvation. No quantity of study will reverse this formula.

We are already witnessing this self-destruction in modern secular Israel as rabbi turns against rabbi over traditions. Extremists are spitting on little girls trying to get to school while others are assaulting the same IDF sworn to protect them. Barriers embedded in avoidable points of view!

God knew this would happen. He devised Christianity as an alternative, knowing Christians would offer haven to the rejected messiah until the time appointed for him to save Israel from threats both external and internal.

The messiah comes as a light of hope at the darkest moment.

MEETING NEEDS

The Parable of the Good Samaritan clarifies who qualifies as neighbor. A neighbor is one in need.

Needs vary. There are physical needs and emotional needs, but perhaps one of the greatest needs is for understanding.

Do I not show charity when I take the time and make the effort to understand my neighbor's point of view?

God is culpable for the ignorance of the Jews, but He acted to promote the larger extension of His love to non-Jews with the intent that this love would be returned to Jews in their eventual Restoration:

"For if the casting away of them [be] the reconciling of the world, what [shall] the receiving [of them be], but life from the dead?" (Romans 11:15).

Under the premise of Dual Messiahs, non-Jews ought to be forewarned about a reciprocal "veil of blindness" regarding the nature and role of the last messiah as they behoove their own fortunes.

IMPLICATIONS

The divine program envisioned a world united under God, in which Jews and non-Jews coexist in peace and brotherhood. Historically, Jews should neither have been, nor should they ever again be, blamed or persecuted for their treatment of Jesus Christ.

See "Should the Jews be held accountable for the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ?",

http://amberneve.newsvine.com/_news/2008/03/27/1394089-should-the-jews-be-held-accountable-for-the-crucifixion-of-jesus-christ

  • 2 votes
#5.8 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:43 PM EST
katrix

They cannot save themselves by rejecting only method chosen by God for their salvation. No quantity of study will reverse this formula.

And you have no proof that this is the only method chosen by God for salvation. Common sense would tell you that if there is a god, it would want many paths available for people to find it - why limit its options so unnecessarily? Nor have I seen any evidence that Jews despise Jesus - quite the contrary. Anyway, this isn't the place for such a discussion. This is basically about the Golden Rule.

And, of course, some people of all cultures and religions have at times failed miserably at following it, and probably always will. The point of this article is that it is something we should all strive for, and that many religions reflect this basic concept of humanity.

  • 1 vote
#5.9 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:53 PM EST
ambivalent

Neron, I'm sorry to tell you that it is against the COH to self promote or to attempt to derail to your own articles.

  • 3 votes
#5.10 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:01 PM EST
Neron Kesar

Nor have I seen any evidence that Jews despise Jesus - quite the contrary.

I am referring to the Dual Messiahs of Isaiah 53. In Judaism there are two complimentary messiahs.

I argue in favor of revealed religion vs. a humanistic alternative. Revealed religion is orthodox and traditional in respect to its insistence on the primacy of God and the supernatural.

I believe the only way to fulfill the mandate to love one's neighbor is through the supernatural intervention of God known as conversion. I refer to the soul rather than membership in a religious community.

  • 2 votes
#5.11 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:06 PM EST
katrix

Well, you'd be wrong, as myself and people like me prove every single day. If you'd like to continue down this road, please write your own article and stop derailing this one. Enoch specifically said this article is about why loving your neighbor as yourself is a good idea - we already have plenty of other articles out there on whether you need a god to be moral.

  • 2 votes
#5.12 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:12 PM EST
grump in NM

Neron, this is the wrong place. Perhaps you should write your own article.

Why would you begrudge Enoch and Holly this little space dedicated to the idea of loving your neighbor as yourself? That is all they are suggesting and that is all they are offering us to contemplate here. They are getting a very good response from folks who are hoping for a world with more kindness, love and compassion.

You seem to be trying very hard to get this delightful article headed off in a different direction. Please let the article stand on it's own merits given the simple premise offered by Enoch and Holly: love your neighbor as yourself. There is no need to go beyond the simple application of a simple, eternal idea.

  • 6 votes
#5.13 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:30 PM EST
ambivalent

You seem to be trying very hard to get this delightful article headed off in a different direction. Please let the article stand on it's own merits given the simple premise offered by Enoch and Holly: love your neighbor as yourself. There is no need to go beyond the simple application of a simple, eternal idea.

Indeed.

  • 2 votes
#5.14 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:36 PM EST
Neron Kesar

Fine with me.

  • 2 votes
#5.15 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:38 PM EST
Mrs D-1475814

Please.... what Grump said.

  • 2 votes
#5.16 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:38 PM EST
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js-445607

What a delightful article for a fresh new year! Thank you Holly and Enoch.

Compassion, passion for life, caring and understanding has been a wonderful path for me. It is quite easy to love my neighbors even when I don't understand them. I don't always understand myself so it all balances out!

  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:17 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend JS: Many thanks for gracing us with your presence and your wisdom.

Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:22 PM EST
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Venator

Good stuff. :)

Happy New Year!

  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:21 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Venator: Thanks. Happy New Year.

Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:22 PM EST
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Kavika

Excellent article Holly and Enoch. It's good to see you both posting again.

In my culture our neighbors are our family. Everyone is your cousin, auntie, uncle, grandmother etc. Each knows that this is the way it should be.

''Gakina Awiiya'' We are all related.

Waanakiwin (peace)

  • 4 votes
Reply#8 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:21 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Kavika: We are indeed all related. Great wisdom.

Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#8.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:23 PM EST
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screminmimi

Holly and Enoch, a pertinent topic for these times when we are all so suspicious and angry with each other.

Now, if we can just learn how to love ourselves within the framework of what is good and uplifting for our minds and bodies and apply that same attitude to our neighbors, we would be making progress toward a more peaceful existence for all.

Very good article, and thought provoking.

Happy New Year to all.

  • 3 votes
Reply#9 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:36 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Mimi: A happy healthy prosperous and fulfilling New Year to you and yours.

I agree with all you related in your fine post.

Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#9.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:55 PM EST
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SW Missouri Mule

Mom taught me that when you share something, the larger piece always goes to your friend. The first time I had to do this was with a candy bar and a good friend. I had to decide which one I loved more. The chocolate was a strong contender but the friendship won. I learned that there was more to be gained in the giving. I learned respect for my friend and for myself. I follow the same principal today by helping where I can, asking no more of my neighbors than is absolutely necessary, smiling at people in public, using polite language, and maybe most important, I do my best to stay calm, patient and forgiving. From my house I can only see 3 neighbors but I consider all I come in contact with to be neighbors.

  • 4 votes
Reply#10 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:46 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend SW Missouri Mule: You are a role model for us all. Thanks for your uplifting views.

Peace and Blessings. Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#10.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:04 AM EST
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ambivalent

In our church our beloved pastor tells us every Sunday that everyone is our neighbor. Everyone! That is a tall order in regard to our behavior, but it is a constant reminder on how to be: loving, non judgemental, helpful, compassionate, patient, hospitable, forgiving (and forgetting). I seem to be chalking up most of the fruits of the Spirit here, lol.

  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:51 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Ambivalent: You get the main point of being religious. One of the many things I respect and like about you.

Thanks for your lucid articulation of what all this G-d talk and activity is about.

Peace and Blessings. Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#11.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:07 AM EST
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CL1

"Whatever is hateful to you, avoid doing to your fellow man".

I think that says it all.

Wonderful article, Enoch. Thank you to both of you. Peace and blessings throughout the new year.

  • 2 votes
Reply#12 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:54 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend CL1: As to you too. All the best. Thanks for your visit and positive comment. Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#12.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:17 AM EST
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McSpocky

That is one of the most important teachings of the Bible, and one that is too often ignored. What a great message to think about when bringing in the New Year.

Wishing you a great New Year!

  • 6 votes
Reply#13 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 5:12 AM EST
maria lyn

And the Lord said forgive thy brothers & your sisters/for their flaws and all. For if you cannot forgive your brothers & sisters/ then unto you I shall not forgive thee! When you are so upset with someone/and you think your going to just explode at them with your anger. I say remember this passage/and it will teach you how to forgive/so that one day you shall be forgiven unto heaven! Maria-Lyn

  • 3 votes
#13.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:44 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend McSpocky: This is indeed a teaching of paramount importance. It is too often ignored, and that never ends well. Holly and

I agree with you. Its a good thought to begin a New Year well. We both wish you the very best of times in 2012.

Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#13.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:21 AM EST
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GrayTherapy

Refreshing! Many great individuals have held visions of world peace. This vision can be accomplished, but only if this concept and similar concepts from the Bible are practiced by all. Yes, love your neighbors, we have many neighbors on the vine.

  • 5 votes
Reply#14 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:51 AM EST
maria lyn

This is What the real Truth is all about.

  • 3 votes
#14.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:35 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Gray Therapy: We do indeed have many good friends and neighbors on the Vine. We are all Viners and neighbors here. It is high time our collective and individual actions more uniformly reflected that reality, and opportunity.

Thanks for gracing us with your erudite observations

Peace and Blessings, Enoch.

P.S. FR invite sent. E.

  • 3 votes
#14.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:25 AM EST
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boomer 54

E & H,

We only have one another. If we don't love and take care of each other, what's the point?

Share the love. Thanks you two.

  • 4 votes
Reply#15 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:08 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Boomer: Share the love indeed. A great 2012 to you and yours. May it be your best year yet!

Peace and Blessings, Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#15.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:26 AM EST
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Vlad's dog

A very good reminder for the new Year Holly and Enoch. Spread love and joy and reap the benefits of having loving neighbors love you right back.

A shared experience is one that will always be remembered.

  • 6 votes
Reply#16 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:12 AM EST
maria lyn

Some times it is very difficult for people to live that TRUTH. For one reason or another/but it is the best way to try and live with each other.

  • 2 votes
#16.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:27 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Vlad's Dog: Well said. Great thought. All best wishes for a super 2012.

Hoping this will be the year we can get together in Buffalo with fellow Viners.

Peace and Blessings, Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#16.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:28 AM EST
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Hiram-1381633

A wonderful article. When Jesus was asked by the lawyer "Who is my neighbor ?" He gave us the wonderful parable of the Good Samaritan. What many people take away from this is that the poor man who laid on the ground beaten was the neighbor Jesus was referring to. When I read this the neighbor is the Samaritan and he gives us the perfect example of the type of neighbor we all should be. Unconditional love for our fellow man is not an easy task as our fellow man can often be hard to love. But it is what Jesus calls us to do and what a wonderful world we could live in if we all headed that calling.

H

  • 5 votes
Reply#17 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:02 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Hiram: Would that we could and should and would all be good Samaritans. This old world would be a better place for it. Let's make a collective New Year's resolution that we shall start leading by example on the Vine as loving fellow Viners as ourselves.

All the best in 2012 to you and yours.

Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#17.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:31 AM EST
tzia62

So true Hiram, the world would be so much better if everyone practised that rule. Just think about how well everyone would get along, no murders, no rape or robberies and such. True also, that it is very hard sometimes to love someone that has done something terrible to you, or someone close to you. We are asked to "Love the sinner , but hate the sin'

Great article Holly and Enoch!

  • 4 votes
#17.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:34 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Tzia: Well spoken. We can accept the potential of the person when the actual isn't up to snuff quite yet. Together we can improve humanity. Great point.

Peace and Blessings. Enoch.

  • 4 votes
#17.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:40 AM EST
ambivalent

tzia, It is ego that stops us from exhibiting righteous behavior toward others, even when they have harmed us. It is hard to do this, but with some practice in humility once in a while I might get it right, lol. We are each one of many. What we do for others, what we accomplish in that vein matters more than anything else. Collective love is very different from individual love. It is not insincere but a practice, an attitude, a stance. Let's hold that ground whenever and however we can! Tough stuff, but worth it sometimes...

  • 5 votes
#17.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:49 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Ambivalent: Definitely worth it. Enoch.

  • 1 vote
#17.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:28 PM EST
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Lebowsky

Very nice Enoch and Holly. Holly needs a link to her column or something, up in the article, call me stupid but I have no Idea which Holly. You could do that in a nice way to be neighborly :o)

There are a lot of different ways to arrive at the same place and the 2 words that always stuck with me were, Be Nice. This came from my father, whose father was a Pastor from ~1880 - 1955 in NW Ohio. I passed this along to my 2 sons who are grown and I am proud of. So far, so good.

  • 3 votes
Reply#18 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:41 AM EST
GrayTherapy

Enjoyed what you wrote. Used to say the same two words to my students, "be nice."

  • 3 votes
#18.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:15 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friends Lebowksky and GrayTherapy: "Be nice". Says it all.

The Holly who is my co-author is Holly348328. It is an honor to be her writing partner.

Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#18.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:31 PM EST
Lebowsky

Thanks again Enoch and Holly, I'm glad you cleared that up because I did have the wrong Holly in mind. Holly great to see you again :o)

  • 2 votes
#18.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:40 PM EST
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etva

Enjoyed the article, Holly and Enoch.

When someone hurts us, angers us, or simply annoys us, we often react/respond in kind, without thinking. I've always thought that the underlying message of "Love your Neighbor" is to think, before we react. Responding with anger only results in more anger. Responding with respect, even in negative situations, helps resolve the problems.

I often hear people say that love is a verb, but sometimes, I think it can be better understood as a state of being to strive for.

  • 3 votes
Reply#19 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:38 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Etva: Good points all. Thanks for shedding light on this important matter.

Happy New Year. Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#19.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:32 PM EST
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Jackie-2759125

The hardest thing for me regarding being neighborly is when I'm driving. When someone rides my backend so close I can see their facial hair or cuts me off...my reflex reaction is to whip out my middle finger or yell obscenities (windows closed of course). My Aunt taught me a good trick to help with this - flip your rear view mirror to night vision and ignore them. I believe that when we get slowed up in our quest for speed whether it be on the road or wherever, we are being "saved" from something. It's the universe's way to put on the e-brake for us.

This is a great article Enoch and Holly to remind me to practice being neighborly in all facets of life, there are no exceptions!

  • 4 votes
Reply#20 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:05 AM EST
ambivalent

when we get slowed up in our quest for speed whether it be on the road or wherever, we are being "saved" from something.

I tell myself when I am behind a driver actually going the limit or less that I am being saved from my impatient self and a speeding ticket, or worse. It is a way of acknowledging an angel!

  • 5 votes
#20.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:15 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friends Jackie and Ambivalent: Great thoughts. I learn from you both. Thanks. Enoch.

  • 4 votes
#20.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:34 PM EST
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IndependentAmerican2892850

Love thy neighbor... you have to live next to them!

Nice article Enoch and Holly.

:)

  • 3 votes
Reply#21 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:48 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend IA: On this ever shrinking planet, we all have to learn to live better with one another.

All best wishes for your best New Year yet.

Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#21.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:36 PM EST
ambivalent

IA, Yours lets his dog roam in your garden. There are some things that are unforgivable!

  • 2 votes
#21.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:39 PM EST
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MsAubrey

For me [not being Jewish or of Christian faith], it's as simple as being nice.

"If it harms none, do as you will." I prefer to extend that into helping those in need as well. I do believe in the three-fold process or Karma if you will.

  • 6 votes
Reply#22 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:49 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Ms. Aubrey: First do not harm. That goes a long way.

Thanks for adding to our understanding of how to make the world a better place.

Peace and Blessings in this New Year. Enoch.

P.S. I will be in Detroit as a Best Man for my friend's wedding on May 27th and 28th. Will be in touch to meet you and your husband then when the date gets closer. E.

  • 4 votes
#22.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:39 PM EST
MsAubrey

For sure! My husband and I were just talking about you visiting! I told him that I believed it was May. So now I know for sure! ☺

If I may ask... Where is the ceremony being held?

  • 1 vote
#22.2 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 2:30 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Suburb of Detroit. Not sure yet. Will let you know as soon as I do. E.

  • 2 votes
#22.3 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 3:00 PM EST
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KElane

In Luke 10:25-37 gives such an excellent thought on who is our neighbor. Many know the story of the Good Samaritan. Jesus pointed out in this story that a Priest and a Levite [both men of God] passed the beaten man by. But, not the Samaritan. He cleaned the wounds with oil and wine, bound them up, placed the poor victim on the Samaritan's own beast and took the man to an inn. Then the Samaritan gave the inn keeper two day's wages to care for the victim and promised more if the inn keeper needed it.

What's interesting about the Good Samaritan was the Jewish people had little respect for them and the two were pretty much enemies. [See John 4:9] But, this Samaritan proved more Godly than the Levite or the Priest.

So, who really is the neighbor?

What Jesus was teaching was how we could become citizens of God's Kingdom. [Matthew 6:9, 10] We were to display and act upon the fruits of God's spirit, namely love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness and self-control. Galatians 5:22, 23. Can you imagine the whole earth filled with people who had these fine qualities in them? Where would the wars be, the greed and the unkindness we see so often today? Would we have hunger?

So, again, who really is our neighbor? We are all neighbors. But what if our neighbor hates us, is cruel and persecutes us?

Jesus said that we were to pray for those who cause us trouble--love our enemies--In Romans 12:17-21 Christians are told to return evil for evil to no one. Christians are to feed their enemies, clothe them, give them something to drink. Paul said that by doing so the Christian would heap fiery coals upon the enemy's head.

Paul was speaking about a refining processes for gold. The raw gold is heated up and the scummy dross floats to the top and can be skimmed off so that the gold is pure. Being kind does this. It brings out the best in people.

Just picture a whole earth of people who have put down their weapons--Isaiah 2:4--who treated their neighbors as themselves! Wouldn't that be wonderful? Psalms 37:9-11; Matthew 5:5.

Thanks for sharing.

  • 2 votes
Reply#23 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:49 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend KElane: Thanks for sharing your uplifting message. Happy New Year to you and yours. Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#23.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:34 PM EST
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Mrs D-1475814

Holly and Enoch.... excellent writings from you both. I enjoy the read very much. Thank you both very much. :)

  • 4 votes
Reply#24 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:29 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Mrs. D.: Thank you for your kind words. They are most meaningful and appreciated. All best wishes for a wonderful 2012.

Peace and Blessings, Enoch.

  • 4 votes
#24.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM EST
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WBOB in Indiana

thanks Enoch....a truly great reminder for us all.

  • 2 votes
Reply#25 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:07 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend WBOB in Indiana: Thank you for gracing us with your presence, and your support. Happy New Year.

Peace and Blessings, Enoch.

  • 1 vote
#25.1 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:08 PM EST
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