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Tu B'Shevat Customs Regarding Fruits.

Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:20 PM EST
religion, judaism, new-year-for-trees
By Enoch-2699399
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At an hour before sundown tonight, the Jewish New Year for Trees begins. This Biblical holiday happens on the fifteenth day of the month of Shevat (Tu B'Shevat). It is the earliest time fruit trees in Israel begin bearing fruit, as they awaken from their winter rest.

It is customary to eat the following fruits, which were consumed in Biblical times. Carob, Etrog (Citron), Dates, Figs, Grapes, Olives, and Pomegranates.

As we celebrates the abundance of this good earth, please feel free to share your thoughts on appropriate ways to celebrate what natures gifts to us. Also, any thoughts you may have on how to be better stewards of the environment will be appreciated.

We all dwell in this world together. What ever we can do to responsibly increase its bounty in a way that will leave a cleaner more productive world for the generations coming is a good thing.

The Code of Honor is in play. So are the four B's. Be relevant, be positive, be respectful, or be gone!

Snarking, trolling, derailing, and attacking are not for this thread. This isn't a referendum on religion: mine or anyone else's. This is about being adults in how we enjoy the blessings of nature, and how we can insure they are there for our children and grandchildren.

Please share the wisdom of your religion, philosophy, ideology, values, heritage, and personal thoughts. Together, we can make a difference. 

Enoch, nibbling on Raisins and Almonds (Symbolic for a good life).          

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Enoch-2699399

In the Torah (Deuteronomy 20:19) it is written. "Man is like a tree of the field".

As we respect nature, so should we respect ourselves, and each other.

Peace and Blessings. Enoch.

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:30 PM EST
Hiram-1381633

What a wonderful tradition I do enjoy you sharing with us. This place we liveis a gift from God and should be treated accordingly. It shouldbe treated with the care and love we would take with any gift given to us by one we love. We do have to be careful not to go to far and worship the creation and ignore the Creator. That is just my view.

Blessings

H

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:41 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Hiram: A great wise view it is. Many thanks for sharing it.

Like all aspects of the Creation, trees are to be respected, and utilized for the greater good. To mistreat any part of the Creation is to disrespect the Creator.

Peace and Blessings, My Good Friend Hiram. Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:44 PM EST
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Kavika

A wonderful tradition niijii. As stewards of the earth we must always keep in mind that she is our benefactor and it is vital that we take care of her. When we do she grants us the plenty that we enjoy.

Waanakiwin niijii

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 2:30 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Kavika: Strongly agreed. As we keep Mother Earth, Mother Earth keeps us.

Peace and Blessings My Good Friend. Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:16 PM EST
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Grisham

Sounds like a wonderful tradition, Enoch. We could use more reminders about how important the planet is to our survival. We also need to be more aware of the impact we have on the planet. Enjoy the fruits my friend!

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:25 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Grisham: Mrs. E. and I are gearing up to feast of nature's bounty within the hour. She is busy preparing goodies. I am helping. I am staying out of her way in the kitchen, by coming to the Vine in my computer room. Who says I don't help out?

Enoch

  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 6:12 PM EST
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RAY FRIEDMAN

It boils down to respect, humility and gratitude with which one should have in their relationship with nature, that in turn will lay the foundation to their relationships with others and God.It is nature that provides the basic and essential ingredients to all of lifes essentials on the most primary level.Thank you for sharing.

  • 2 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 7:47 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Ray Friedman: Thank's for sharing these words of wisdom.

Lots of meaning conveyed in a very few words.

Peace and Blessings. Enoch.

  • 3 votes
#5.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 9:53 PM EST
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J. Lemert Whitmer

We have been given a wonderful place to live. Every morning I get up and look out at another beautiful day.

I believe in a generous God, but whatever one believes, the bounty of this planet is beyond words.

A tree, any tree even in its last throws of death is something to behold.

Enoch, what a wonderful tradition. I will eat some fruit and nuts this evening in honor to the tradition you love so much.

  • 1 vote
Reply#6 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 9:00 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend J. Lemert Whitmer: Thank you for gracing us with your presence, sagacity and generosity of the spirit.

May the Heavenly Father to whom we both pray grant you and yours peace, goodness, blessings, beauty, loving kindness and inspiration unto the thousandth generation.

Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#6.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 9:57 PM EST
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katrix

What a wonderful article, Enoch. I don't celebrate any specific plant-centric holidays, and had no idea that this existed. It isn't a bad idea! I like making my pesto in the fall - when the first frost hits, harvesting all my basil before it turns black, knowing I'll have some really tasty stuff to share wtih friends. Seeing my first snow glories and hellebores blooming in the spring, as they are now - for beauty and food, plants are worth celebrating.

But pomegranates? Heh. That makes me think of the Greek mythology.

  • 2 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 10:29 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Katrix: Thanks for your kind post. It is appreciated.

Pomegranates are a fruit with an interesting history. The Adam and Eve story did not refer to a specific fruit. Somewhere along the line, people thought it was an apple. Only the problem there is that from what we can piece together, it was more likely a pomegranate. That is the fruit which grows indigenous in the part of the world where the Adam and Eve story about the garden of Eden is thought to have occurred.

In any event. Mrs. E. and I feasted on all the fruit mentioned in the article last night. We celebrate the savory and nutritious treats given us by Mother Earth. In season, it is my great good pleasure and honor to tend to our Lilacs, apple trees, lawn, hedges, and garden. We grow tomatoes, Swiss chard, cucumbers, peppers, zucchini, yellow squash, and cherries. We also have an herb garden. Nothing like fresh herbs to perk up the taste of a good vegan meal.

Of them all, in spring time, it is the Lilacs of which Mrs. E. and I are most proud. We dote on them.

Peace and Blessings, Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:15 AM EST
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Al-316

Enoch, my friend, Kavika mentioned earlier that we are stewards here. I agree. We owe it to ourselves and our progeny to preserve and protect all of the bounty which G-d has provided to us.

You mention that you and Mrs. E have lilacs. I have always felt that lilacs have a most wonderful smell. Someday, I hope to a lilac or two in my yard to sniff.

This is a good article, my friend. Thank you for reminding us of one of our most important responsibilities

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Reply#8 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:52 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Al: It is always an honor when you grace us with your sagacity. Thanks for the visit.

Of all our spring flowers, our lilacs continue to be our pride and joy each and every year.

Once they take root, you need to nothing else but enjoy them.

Peace and Blessings, Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#8.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:43 PM EST
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J. Lemert Whitmer

It is my hope there will be no late freezes to kill my lilac blooms this spring. I am like you, Al-316, I look forward to the wonderful aroma.

  • 1 vote
Reply#9 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:14 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend J. Lemert Whitmer: To date, this has been the winter that wasn't. Springtime where I reside is a sticky wicket. Late freezes are not unknown in these parts. Even so, life will find a way.

I concur with you and Al. What can match the fragrance of fresh lilacs?

Enoch.

  • 2 votes
#9.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:45 PM EST
katrix

A huge mass of lilies of the valley come pretty close ;)

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#9.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:13 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Good point.

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#9.3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:31 PM EST
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Arkansas Gloria

Wonderful tradition- Honor our Creator, and all we have been given. As we share the life that is in foods, we must remember those that are to come after us, and take care of what we leave to them all.

  • 1 vote
Reply#10 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:52 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Arkansas Gloria: great post. Superior wisdom shown. Thanks. Enoch.

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#10.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:42 AM EST
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katrix

So, Enoch, I have a question for you - I know you're a vegetarian, but do you keep kosher? I had lunch today with a mixed crowd. We were discussing kosher practices and I brought up cheese. I read a lot of mysteries/suspense novels, and one novelist I read is Kaye Kellerman. From that, I learned that cheese isn't kosher if it was made using rennet, so although many vegetarian dishes are kosher, cheese isn't, necessarily. I never even thought about the whole rennet thing before. Thoughts?

  • 1 vote
Reply#11 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:02 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

The rennet thing is correct. Also, at Pesach (Passover) we don't eat foods with leavening. So vitamin D fortified milk isn't kosher for passover per se. Grains are used to fortify milk with vitamin D. Finally, hard cheese needs a label to be safely kosher, because of additives. Soft cheese is generally safe, but it pays to read the label for side ingredients. It always pays to read any fine print, whatever one's concerns. The large print giveth, the small print taketh away. Smiles.

Yes, I also keep kosher. usually, being vegan that is easy when you eat outside the home. For example, I enjoyed a lunch with one of our Vine friends at Chipotle's Mexican Restaurant. I had the vegan burrito bowl. I had brown rice with cilantro, black beans, grilled peppers and onions, mild salsa, roasted corn with pepper, tomato and onion, and guacamole. Nothing unkosher there. Chipotle's isn't certified kosher, but I see no problem with it. Its pretty good food by the way. They over feed you. But the service is great, food is high quality, and not too bad on price. I also like their tea. It's a strong full bodied one. just to my taste, with a wedge of fresh cut lemon.

One final note. Kosher versus non-kosher isn't about nutritional health. There is unhealthy and healthy food in each camp. Its more a matter of customs and traditions which bind a community together.

Great questions. Enoch.

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#11.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:48 PM EST
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katrix

The large print giveth, the small print taketh away. Smiles.

That was great! And absolutely, it's about customs, which makes me ask so many questions.

Thanks for the information about the cheese. I'd never even thought about that, and it points out how much diligence it takes to keep up a lifestyle like that. And I learned from my sister that mac and cheese often has beef broth - so that isn't even something a vegetarian can count on.

OK, now more questions. Soy milk, almond milk, rice milk - how do those work? They're not dairy, but there could be additives. I like almond milk, not crazy about soy, haven't tried rice. Would that affect someone who keeps kosher, is vegan, or whatever?

Peace to you and Mrs. E, and have a great weekend. I would apologize for asking so many questions, but you're like my mom - you enjoy explaining things, have complete trust in your faith and don't get bothered in the least by those who disagree, and you do it well.

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Reply#12 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:26 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Katrix: Almond, Soy and Rice milk can all be kosher or not depending on what else is in the package. You have your thumb on the pulse.

Ground vegetation, whether almond, soy, or rice is in and of itself completely kosher. Its the additives that make it more or less so.

One way to know if something is kosher or not is to look on the package and see if someone has certified the product as kosher. For example, The Orthodox Union inspects things for compliance with religious purity laws. If you see a U with a circle around it, it means that The Orthodox Union has certified it is kosher.

I use ground soy in protein shakes. As we speak, I am having ground soy protein powder and skim milk with a dash of pomegranate juice for flavor and color in a smoothie. This product is certified Kosher Parve and Vegan by the Orthodox Union, and bears the U with a circle around it on the front of the canister. Kosher Parve means it is kosher and neither diary not meat in composition. Its just ground soy beans. At 190 calories for a shake, with 0 grams of sugar, saturated or trans fats, it provides 60 mg of potassium (lowers blood pressure), 25g of protein, and by percentage of minimum daily requirements:

Vitamin A 35%

C 25%

Calcium 50%

Iron 45%

Vitamin E 100%

Thiamine 35%

Riboflavin 50%

Niacin 25%

B6 30%

Folate 45%

B12 45%

Biotin 25%

Pantothenic Acid 35%

Phosporus 60%

Iodine 25%

Magnesium 25%

Zinc 30%

Selenium 80%

Copper 45%

That is a mess of nutrition for just 190 calories. A downside to this is that alone, the unflavored powder tasteless like chalk dust. That is why I add fresh pressed fruit juice to it. Almonds are a great source of lots of good things. Soy is the most nutritionally complete bean on the planet.

A final word about Kashrut (kosher). It all started with the commandment., "Asur le'aychol egel bah chalav Imo". "It is forbidden to eat a kid in the milk of its mother". The whole idea behind kosher is this. We all have to eat to live. To eat, unless we are scavengers (which our species isn't) we need to take life to sustain life.

That is true for harvesting vegetables, fruits and grains as it is for meat. Dairy is in interesting commodity.

If you do not milk domesticated cows daily, it will harm their health. To get meat on the table, it is necessary to slaughter an animal.

One reason why we don't combine meat and dairy is that meat requires taking life, extracting dairy helps cow's health.

Another is the Biblical injunction mentioned above. That we need to eat to live is fine. That we make the ultimate disrespect for animals, to boil the meat of a child in the milk of its mother seems to us morally repugnant. The central theme of kosher is spiritual purity. We try to attain that by humane slaughter, going as plant based as possible, and respecting the plants and animals that feed us to the extent that we practically can.

We are not alone in this. Our good friend Kavika has often written about Native American respect for all aspects of Mother Earth, including food sources. Other examples abound.

Perhaps from your viewpoint you can share with us the teachings of your philosophy, tradition, and personal thoughts on the matter. I would love to hear it.

There are all kinds of things I never learned before, which I want to know with time remaining. At my age, why wait?

Smiles. Enoch.

  • 1 vote
#12.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:55 AM EST
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Buzz of the Orient

When we speak of trees, it is inevitable that I conjure in my mind the poem by Joyce Kilmer:

I think that I shall never see

A poem lovely as a tree.

A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth's sweet flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.

The question was asked of my students: What is the oldest living thing in the world? In fact it is a tree, the bristlecone pine, the most ancient of which is justifiably named "Methuselah", being almost 4,800 years old. Could we, as humans, have survived without trees?

http://sonic.net/bristlecone/

  • 2 votes
Reply#13 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:10 AM EST
Al-316

Buzz, you took me back to my high school days with "Trees".

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#13.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:15 AM EST
Buzz of the Orient

Buzz, you took me back to my high school days with "Trees".

Would that our bodies could go back to that era as well.....

  • 2 votes
#13.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:24 AM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friends Al and Buzz: Great posts. We cannot survive without trees and other plant life producing the oxygen we need, and absorbing carbon dioxide for their respiration. Moreover, life would lost a lot of its aesthetic value without trees. They contribute much.

Kilmer's Ode to Trees is a personal favorite of mine. As is his Ode to Beer.

"I think that I shall never hear, a poem lovely as a beer.

The stuff Enright's Thirst Parlour has on tap.

An amber base, with a snowy cap.

Poems are made by fools I fear.

For only Pabst can brew a beer".

(Errrp, get's me right here, every time). Enoch, sucking down some cultural suds.

  • 2 votes
#13.3 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:02 AM EST
Al-316

Enoch, my inebriated friend, I drove past your house the other day and saw someone with pointy ears laying under a tree drinking beer. Was that you?

  • 2 votes
#13.4 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM EST
Enoch-2699399

Dear Friend Al: Its hard for me to respond, as I was supine under a pine, quaffing from a stein at the time.

Enoch, seeing things that aren't there.

  • 2 votes
#13.5 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM EST
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